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2002 silhouette
04-04-2011, 06:30 AM (This post was last modified: 04-04-2011 06:32 AM by ve77er.)
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2002 silhouette
we just purchased this van from my in-laws, I took it for state inspection on Friday April 1st, it passed however, since it was at the dealer, they did their usual "courtesy" service topping off fluids and such and, according to the receipt, they added coolant, I am assuming they added dexcool to the resevoir because they are a GM dealer and that is what is called for but my father-in-law flushed out the dexcool and went green (prestone) how/should I be concerned about the small amount of dexcool and should I flush the system again? because I have heard numerous opinions on the two but I also heard you should never mix them. what would should I look for to be aware if any damage is being done to this van's cooling system or engine?
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04-04-2011, 09:45 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
Personally I would not be concerned about a small amount being mixed in. (did they really add some or just check that box on the form?) I would be more concerned with where the coolant went if it was indeed low. Depending on the mileage it may be time to keep an eye on the water pump for seepage.
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01-27-2012, 03:01 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
we have experienceed a small problem, neither front seat heat is now working, are there procedures for changing or checking the elements? is it a bad switch? any ideas here would be helpful.
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01-27-2012, 10:49 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
The most common problem at that age is likley to be the heating elements, which are located in a pad under the seat cover. They break from years of flexing under the weight of the occupants. Of course this presumes you have already looked at the basics (fuses) and you can hear the relays clicking when you operate the switches. If you can get to the plugs under the seats and stick a meter on the circuit it should be around 10 - 15 ohms per element. If you have a high and low setting there's two elements in each pad and the system works like a 3 way light bulb. (you get one or both elememnts to change the heat output)

The other common problem is the dealer may tell you replacements are no longer available at that age. I tried to get a set for a 2002 Denali last year and I was outta luck, although my local interior shop was able to find a set from his connections in the aftermarket. He's not telling. He's a specialty shop and he wants to stay that way.

BTW, since flexing of the wires in the pad is the issue you should avoid kneeling on the seat to reach into the back.

Let us know how you make out.
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01-29-2012, 10:44 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
thanks Rupe,
that is what I figured and I am being told the same thing, the elements are no longer available, we now have a new issue, when we first start up the van the "service traction system" light comes on and then goes off, the ABS light and traction lights stay on and the traction control switch on the center cluster does not engage (snaps on) I checked and found no fuses for this system I remember our 2002 Windstar had a bad ABS controller which we lived with because the expense involved was excessive, does this sound like a similar issue?
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01-29-2012, 11:24 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
The ABS and Traction control are tied together in that they both use the wheel speed sensors to verify what's turning and what's not. If the fuses are good, you see no signs of external damage to the sensing wires, and have no signs of a bad wheel bearing, your best bet is going to be a scan of the systems for trouble codes. This will require a scan tool a few notches above the typical code reader meaning a trip to a garage or dealer.

BTW, if you are lucky enough to have only a bad wheel sensor they are showing up in the aftermarket these days.

Let us know how you make out.
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02-21-2012, 02:30 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
(01-29-2012 11:24 AM)Rupe Wrote:  The ABS and Traction control are tied together in that they both use the wheel speed sensors to verify what's turning and what's not. If the fuses are good, you see no signs of external damage to the sensing wires, and have no signs of a bad wheel bearing, your best bet is going to be a scan of the systems for trouble codes. This will require a scan tool a few notches above the typical code reader meaning a trip to a garage or dealer.

BTW, if you are lucky enough to have only a bad wheel sensor they are showing up in the aftermarket these days.

Let us know how you make out.

Rupe,
I jacked the van up after checking all fuses (no problem there) and physically shook all the wires to the sensors, then after taking the van off the jackstands, all the lights were out so I am guessing it is a contact issue and will keep an eye on things in the future, thanks for the input.
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02-21-2012, 10:51 AM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
Thanks for the follow up. You can see that this will turn into a "hunt & peck" job without a scan. There is no easy way to find an intermittent problem the old fashion way and that code is just waiting in memory teasing you with the good information that is just out of reach.

I'm sure you will keep us posted on your progress... eventually.
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05-18-2013, 03:24 PM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
purchased a door hinge repair kit from Dorman kit#38492 there are no instructions included and there are three pins of equal length and one pin slightly longer, anyone ever install these and if so, where does the longer pin go?
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05-18-2013, 04:54 PM
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RE: 2002 silhouette
Hinge pin kits cover a range of models / years within a given make / style. The extra is for those applications where it's needed. Typically the kit has 4 bushings, enough for a single door. Just use the pins that match close to what's already in there and discard the extra.

Caution, the bushings are brittle and may crack if you use too much force to install the new ones. Be sure they sit straight and try to align the little grooves to match where the old ones came out before sending them home. A little oil or grease can work wonders here.

Helpful hint: You must remove the door to do this job, which means the possibility of disconnecting the wiring if it's got electric windows / locks... or being extra careful not to stretch the wiring, which means supporting the door while it's open. A floor jack with a block of wood protecting the bottom may work but you'd need a helper to keep it in balance. You could also use a ratchet strap through the open window and "hang" the door from a tree limb or possibly garage door hardware.

Oh, if your hinge has the miniature coil spring watch your eyes as they can fly out with lots of force. There's a compressor tool made for them that costs under $10. I finally bought one last year after doing things the hard way for decades. I still pry them out with a large screw driver while covering it with a pile of shop rags but going back in with that tool is 60 seconds instead of 60 tries!
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